Monthly Archives: April 2012

what is the role of a minister

Of late I have found it strange how many people have thanked me for things that I have done which I consider to be part of the ministerial role. This seems to come in part people being truly grateful for thing that I organise. However some times it does seem strange to have such thanks for what is my role.

This also raises a second question to me about the role of a minister, each church has a different view of ministry. Within the Methodist church it seems to be very much a shared work, that each person has a ministry, and those who ordained are set aside to specific work. However it is also interesting to see the tension between some of the work that an ordained minister would like to do, and the work that is actually done due to local consternates.

Then there is the difference between sending and calling. That for many nonconformist churches the minister is called by the congregation, while for the Methodist church the ministers are sent by the Conference (which is made up of the body of the church). This leads to the tension between what one is there for and what the local church sees a minister is there for.

These are more questions and we will see what they come to

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Posted by on April 26, 2012 in Ministry, Seen by the outside


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Images of young ministers

Following up the last post “Young to be a Minister” here are a couple of images I’ve found on the topic…

Portrait of a Young Minister of Religion by British School

Portrait of a Young Minister by British School

Again interesting images, and show how things can be seen by the outside.

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Posted by on April 14, 2012 in Ministry, Seen by the outside


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Young to be a Minister

While at an event, that was not related to the church, I was asked what I do for a living. When I explained that I was a minister, one person remarked that I was to young to be a minister, because they are all near the age to draw their pensions.

Well this has got me thinking about age in some roles. I avoided going into the ministry till I was in my late twenties so that I could get some life experience. Also along side this there is the whole debate around the missing generation. Being in the grouping that is been looked at, and knowing many others who are, I would say a disproportionate amount of those who are within the church are active in some role. This is interesting as many express the fact that they are called to the role and ministry which they do, so one conclusion is that they would have stayed any way.

Thus this has me thinking about the public perception of the church membership and those who are called to representative ministry. Does a young(er) minister portray a church as being younger, and on the back of this does the minister need to act young?



Posted by on April 13, 2012 in Ministry, New ideas


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Today’s Thought for the day

Today Rhidian Brook was talking about time and vacations and work on Thought for the day. He was speaking about origin of the holiday as a holy day. I found this interesting, the idea of the need to haver a break. However in this that it is not so much the idea it been a rest day, but a day to rest in the Divine. In this Easter Week I find this an interesting concept. After all the rush of Holy Week – with services and visiting – along with many other ministers I am having a quite week, and actually finding my self been able to rest in the Divine.

“He lets me rest in fields of green grass and leads me to quiet pools of fresh water.” Psalm 23:2

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Posted by on April 12, 2012 in Spiritual Vocab


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The idea of the minster and permaculture

Reading on the web today an interesting article about rural ministry. In it the model of the minster is suggested by Reverend Rob Brown in his article “Why the Church needs to return to its pastoral roots: permaculture visions of a rural minster

I think that this is an interesting idea that can be applied to the life of the church, in the idea of a minster that supports the surrounding communities. However along with this I see that there is a need for strong lay leadership in the local to maintain things between visits.



Posted by on April 11, 2012 in Wheeel&Spoke


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Who’s hope, who gives it and who pronounces it?

Who’s hope, who gives it and who pronounces it? (cf committal prayer and how it works with those who are unchurched) is one of the questions I asked as an opener to this blog.

In the funeral service, and following some debate with others around the use of the following:

“Since the earthly life of N has come to an end we commit her/his body to be cremated/to the elements/to be buried, earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust; in the sure and certain hope of the resurrection to eternal life through our Lord Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” (MWB p457)


“God alone is holy and just and good. In this certainty we have commended N to God. We therefore commit her/his body to be cremated/to the elements/to be buried, earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust; trusting in the infinite mercy of God, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.” (MWB p458)

The debate came about in which of these is more appropriate to be used with those who have a more tentative link to the church. I personally prefer the first, as it gives a clear message of what is being declared and clearly states what is believed as the things to come. The second option to me while giving comforting words does not make things clear.

However back to the original question: who’s hope is this. The minister leading the service clearly states that it is their hope, however I would also see this as a wider hope that the church pronounces and does this is reflection of the opening scripture that is said as the minister goes before the body.

‘I am the resurrection and the life,’ says the Lord. ‘Those who believe in me, even though they die, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die.’ John 11:25-26


Posted by on April 7, 2012 in RiseInGlory


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Shadow of the cross

The image of the shadow of the cross is often used, and on Palm Sunday I used it in my sermon, that the joy and celebration of that day is tinged with the shadow of the cross. And that this spreads across holy week. However also that all shadows need a light source, and that this source is Easter and the light of the world returning.

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Posted by on April 7, 2012 in Mystery, New ideas


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