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How many churches could be like this?

Some one pointed me in the direction of the following, it is the church speaking, and comes from the work of the The Unappreciated Pastor on The Huffington Post, and is called “Hello, my name is Church

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Posted by on January 3, 2014 in Seen by the outside, Spiritual Vocab

 

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Do we need to move the bums off pews?

Now I saw the date of this article, but also the time of it, so I’m taking it is not an April Fools. However when Andrew Brown in the Guardian comes out with “How do churches get new bums on seats? Get rid of the boring old ones” it got me thinking is it true.

Well yes you do find some closed minds in the pew, but I’ve found as many young congregation members filling seats or pews and not being willing to change. In the article the example of Holy Trinity Brompton is used, as a place with many young people. But does this simply show that this place is taking in people from a wide area. It is a common feature that some people will travel to somewhere that is stylistically or theologically in line with them, or that provides the resources they need.

Then comes the idea of those “ladies of the church” who are 70+ and have served well. Having led worship with many of these, they are often more open to new ideas than some others (and much younger) I know.

It is not a case of simple shifting the existing group to a new slot, and bring in something new (though at times that many be what every one wants). It can be a gradual process, that draws people from where they are to where they need to be.

The Church is not about bums on pews it is about community, it is about being many ages together. What might be needed more is that this becomes not only the Sunday School heading out, but having some time together and then several different options available, that can be taken up by those who wish to. Before coming back together over coffee and such.

We really should not be looking to push any out, as I’ve said before.

 

 
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Posted by on April 2, 2013 in Ministry, New ideas, Seen by the outside

 

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Hagiosphere – a posh word for a holy huddle

A friend pointed out this word the other day giving the definition as

used to mean a social ecosystem of like-minded individuals constantly reinforcing their own world-views to the exclusion of absolutely anything that might contradict those views.

And this got me thinking about many churches, that they are often made up of the same type of person. This of course is often the people who live in the area around the church building. However then you get those who go to a church because it had “people like us” in it.

And I have to ask is this healthy? If the church is meant to be the body of Christ, and to respect and contain all parts of the body, then if it is all the same it will stop working. However I do think that this raise questions of what we mean by church {structure / building}. Is it possible to have different expressions of church that are all part of one whole working together? Also what do those outside think, is it a case of “I’m not like them so I can’t go there/won’t be welcome.”

 

 
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Posted by on November 27, 2012 in Ministry, Seen by the outside, Wheeel&Spoke

 

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