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Some bits from a while ago on Becoming a Self

A while ago I had the pleasure of seeing the Becoming a Self exhibition by Deborah Ravetz.


And these where my responses:

Words gathered
Words presented
Words printed
Words give
Words arranged
Words layered
Words noted
Words seen
Words unseen
Words recorded
Words inspired
Words dissuading

And then:

The famous, the infamous
the unknown
All together, all valued,
all presented
Here inspiring, here suggesting,
here relating
Search complete, search opened,
search ongoing
Questions asked, questions found
questions challenged
Meeting past, meeting present,
meeting future
Stories read, stories known,
stories unfinished

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Posted by on June 25, 2013 in Ministry, Mystery, Poetry


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Do we need to move the bums off pews?

Now I saw the date of this article, but also the time of it, so I’m taking it is not an April Fools. However when Andrew Brown in the Guardian comes out with “How do churches get new bums on seats? Get rid of the boring old ones” it got me thinking is it true.

Well yes you do find some closed minds in the pew, but I’ve found as many young congregation members filling seats or pews and not being willing to change. In the article the example of Holy Trinity Brompton is used, as a place with many young people. But does this simply show that this place is taking in people from a wide area. It is a common feature that some people will travel to somewhere that is stylistically or theologically in line with them, or that provides the resources they need.

Then comes the idea of those “ladies of the church” who are 70+ and have served well. Having led worship with many of these, they are often more open to new ideas than some others (and much younger) I know.

It is not a case of simple shifting the existing group to a new slot, and bring in something new (though at times that many be what every one wants). It can be a gradual process, that draws people from where they are to where they need to be.

The Church is not about bums on pews it is about community, it is about being many ages together. What might be needed more is that this becomes not only the Sunday School heading out, but having some time together and then several different options available, that can be taken up by those who wish to. Before coming back together over coffee and such.

We really should not be looking to push any out, as I’ve said before.


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Posted by on April 2, 2013 in Ministry, New ideas, Seen by the outside


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New Blog ideas

Right this is me setting up my blog, in this I have a few ideas, and am planing to use this blog to put some of my ideas together, and engage with others over what I am writing and thinking.

So here is a list of the ideas that I plan to develop:

  • Can different levels of participation in the Mystery be sustained along side each other?
  • Along side this are different levels of participation in the Mystery equally valid expression of faith?
  • Has the “Protestant” drive towards equality pushed more to the margins?
  • Do we need support from a self sustaining core, that then supports wider work? (cf “Celtic Monastic Missions”; “Minsters”; “Town Church & Village Chapel”; “Society & Class”)
  • Does a sense of awe need to be brought back, to develop the idea of Mystery as a metaphor for understanding faith, and recapturing the historical meaning of mystery.
  • Who’s hope, who gives it and who pronounces it? (cf committal prayer and how it works with those who are unchurched)
  • Granting a language to articulate the spiritual and supernatural, where the church lost it’s and “Oc-culture” stepped in

So I plan to develop my thinking around these questions and other. There is an underlying theme of these being theological and in part tied to the role of Christian Faith, as this is where I am coming from, and make a deliberate choice to discus from there. However ideas from others sources are more than welcome.

Also all the views here are mine, and many of the ideas are underdevelopment


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